The Position of Jieng Council of Elders on the IGAD-Plus Proposed Compromise Agreement

The Republic of South Sudan
Jieng Council of Elders
(JCE)

Friday July 31st, 2015, SSN;

The Jieng Council of Elders, as a body that is greatly concerned about suffering of the people of South Sudan and yearns for an expeditious end to the on-going violent conflict in the country, wishes to express publicly it views on the latest IGAD-Plus “Proposed Compromise Agreement on the Resolution of the Conflict in the Republic of South Sudan”.

Though the proposal is an attempt to resolve the on-going conflict in the country, it is our opinion that the proposal inherently creates more serious problems than it solves. It actually makes the achievement of peace very difficult for four reasons.

First, the proposed agreement is intrinsically a strategy for the international actors to take-over the country. It is essentially born out of the recommendations of the African Union Commission Report, which recommended foreign personalities to run the country during the transitional period.

Second, the proposal creates a more divisive future for the country that is likely to breed a much bitter war, considering the proposal to handover Upper Nile region to the opposition.

Thirdly, it does not address in a meaningful way the root causes of the conflict, though it may succeed in temporary halting the fighting, it does not entirely provide any guarantees to stop its resumption in the very near future.

Lastly, the agreement is crafted particularly in favor of Riek Machar and helps him achieve his coup objectives, albeit diplomatically. The agreement makes Riek Machar co-president, not just a vice president and the agreement essentially renders the sitting president powerless and more ceremonial. This glaring appeasement of hell-bend coup plotters actually provides incentives for violent usurpation of power.

To understand this better, it is important to unpack the problematic articles as away to unveil the truth about this faulty proposal.

Chapter-one, Article 1.6 of this proposal outlines the power sharing ratios in the Transitional Government of National Unity (TGoNU) as follows: In the executive body, the government gets 53%, the SPLM-IO has 33%, while the SPLM FDs and other political parties get 7%, and 7 % respectively.

Whereas power-sharing ratios in the conflict affected States of Jonglei, Unity and Upper Nile as reflected in Article 15.4 breaks down as follows: The government is apportioned 33%; SPLM/A-IO 53%; SPLM Leaders (Former Detainees) 7%; and other Political Parties with 7 %.

Obviously, there is no major objection on the rationale to share power between the warring parties as a way to end the conflict. The question that arises, is on what basis should this be done?

What is raising questions more on this proposal is the justification for giving the opposition 53% in the war affected states? Does this suggest that the opposition controls 53% of the territory in the Upper Nile region?

Or is this based on the assumption that since the rebellion is predominantly Nuer-led, that the Nuer ethnic group makes 53% of the total population in each of the three states? Is this also assuming that the whole Nuer ethnic community has joined the rebellion?

Moreover, if power is being shared on the basis of ethnic ratios, how could the Nuer opposition get 33% of the state power when the whole ethnic group constitutes about 15% of the total population in South Sudan?

The proposal clearly lacks any sound basis, as it is devoid of any coherent logic and does nothing more than to fragment the society and threatens to further aggravate an already fractured social fabric.

We find it objectionable to extend the power sharing ratios to the states. While the compromise to share the power with the rebels is an undertaking that should not to be talked about disdainfully, some mechanisms of power sharing equation used by the IGAD-PLUS ought to be closely scrutinized, for we may end up inadvertently priming the country for another disastrous self-butchering.

Perhaps the IGAD mediators are fed with slanted information about the population dynamics in the Greater Upper Nile region. Thus, we intend to submit to the whole world demographic facts regarding this strategic region.

In terms of the population breakdown in the region’s three states, the 2008 Population Census shows that the Nuer community accounts for 49.5% of the total population in the Upper Nile region, while it constitutes 15% of the total population in the Republic of South Sudan.

At the state level, Nuers make up 28.2% in Upper Nile State, 49.5% in Jonglei state and 85% in Unity State.

Through this ethnic demographic prism, it is abundantly clear that the Nuer population alone does not constitute 50% of the total regional population. Therefore, IGAD-Plus’s mediation cannot use this as the basis for granting 53% majority to the rebellion.

Second, the Nuer’s collective opinion is split, which makes this agreement an unfair adventure, for it is forcing the rest of South Sudan to share power evenly with a fraction of a subset of the total population.

In the case of Unity State for example, it has to be ardently borne in mind that the present governor of Unity State, who is with the government, has the majority following in the state. His followers constitute the bulk of the men fighting the SPLM/A-IO in that state.

Could it be that the decision to give majority power to the rebellion was based on but false believe that majority of the South Sudan’s oil come from the Nuer territories?

Assuming that this was the basis on which such decision was made, we want to make it vividly clear to the whole world that majority of the oil; actually 96% of the total oil production currently in South Sudan comes from the Jieng (Dinka) territories.

Upper Nile state produces up to 85% of South Sudan’s oil output and it is 100% in a Jieng territory.

In Unity State, South Sudan produces roughly 15% of the total oil output, 60% of which is produced in Parieng County; a Jieng territory.

When all numbers are stipulated, the oil production in Nuer territory comes to more or less 4% of the total oil output in South Sudan. Hence, IGAD-Plus mediators could not with a straight face justify their decision on this fact.

The mediation might have considered who controls what territory to decide on the fate of the Upper Nile region. Based on the facts on the ground, the opposition controls part of one county, Panyijar in Unity State, which has only 9% of the total population in the state.

They control parts of one county in upper Nile, Maiwut, which has a population of roughly 8% of the total population in the state. The opposition seems to have more fortunes in Jonglei where they control Akobo, Uror and Nyirol with 33% of the population.

Thus, in terms of territories the parties control, the SPLM-IO could get less than 10% of power in Upper and Unity States and 33% of power in Jonglei State.

This agreement therefore unfairly grants the power in the Upper Nile region to the rebellion in disregards for the government control of these areas. This cannot be used as the basis for allocating 53% power to the rebels.

This will definitely alienate the present state governments and may end up encouraging another Nuer vs. Nuer war in Unity State and Nuer vs. other ethnic groups in Jonglei and Upper Nile, a scenario that is worth avoiding at all cost.

Therefore, if the IGAD-PLUS is using the information narrated above as the basis to compute the percentages reflected in this current peace proposal, then they have missed the point by a wide margin.

Either that the information they used in their arithmetic is awfully slanted, or they simply want to see the current mayhem in our country continuing.

Given the aforementioned reasons, we find it appropriate to challenge IGAD and its partners to go back to the drawing board and take a fresh look into the population dynamics in those states.

Although our collective desire for peace is overwhelming, exceptions have to be made if this agreement were to have any remote chance of ushering in a new dawn of sustainable peace in our country.

Turning over the whole greater Upper Nile region to Riek Machar is vehemently objected. This agreement is tailor made for Riek Machar and his followers and so this alone is sufficient to warrant opposition to the tenets of the whole agreement and the power sharing ratios in Upper Nile in particular.

The proposal actually aggravates people’s growing distrust towards IGAD’s mediation model, which is itself becoming more and more an obstacle to the achievement of peace.

This appeasement scheme, skewed towards SPLM/A-IO, has a potential for igniting more violence in Upper Nile; a region that is already battered by repeated bouts of man-made disasters and persistent cycles of rebellious conflicts.

As the base of the nation’s oil wealth, it is imperative to make sure that this region is handled with extra care and great sensitivity so that it is not plunged into any sort of armed anarchy inadvertently.

If this agreement is signed in its present form, we are afraid that it will be a recipe for another disastrous outcome in South Sudan and the greater Upper Nile region in particular.

In fact, if such a proposal were to make it through, it would not be surprising to witness the emergence of another rebellion in the region before the implementation of this proposed agreement commenced.

This should not be allowed because geo-politically, the greater Upper Nile is a strategic region both for its population and natural wealth; it would be a grave mistake to allow it to descend into uncontrollable chaos.

If the greater Upper Nile region is blindly granted this special status, it may later serve as an opportunity for those who want to dismember this country by propping up separatists whose indulgences are not in the best interest of this country.

The other concern with the power sharing ratios regards the SPLM Leaders-Former Detainees (FDs). The IGAD-Plus simply ignores the fact that the SPLM FDs have reached an agreement with the government and they have returned to the country.

It defeats any logic to insist on keeping a stakeholder that has ceased to exist. This is either a sheer ignorance on the part of IGAD-Plus, or it is simply part of the broader scheme by the international community to set in motion further fragmentation of this country.

The fact is that the SPLM Leaders FDs are now part of the government and so if IGAD wants to continue to recognize this group, it has to be acknowledged as part of the government.

Therefore, whatever percentage share of power given to this group should go to the government automatically.

The second problematic provision in this proposed agreement regards the powers, functions and responsibilities to be exercised by the President, the First Vice President and the Vice President through consultation and mutual agreement.

The proposal on the presidency is consistent with the African Union Commission recommendations on collegial presidency.

The main difference is that this proposal envisions the TGoNU as an institution that is grounded on the premise of collegial decision-making and continuous consultation between the President, the First Vice President and the Vice President, in order to ensure effective governance during the transitional period.

The most serious issue with this proposal regarding the collegial presidency is that it may lead to paralysis within the presidency and essentially diffuse the presidential powers into three power centers.

This has a potential to create conflict, especially when there is no one person that has the final decision-making powers.

The whole of the transitional period may end without any meaningful progress on all the issues, which would really be a recipe for violence.

This is exactly the excuse the Joint Monitoring and Evaluation Commission (JMEC), essentially a parallel foreign-led leadership structure, needs to make and impose decisions on the presidency, a serious challenge to the sovereignty of the Republic of South Sudan.

Since the implementation powers of this agreement are given to Riek Machar, it is potentially possible that Riek Machar and the JMEC could bypass and sideline the president and run a parallel government.

As previously discussed, the proposed agreement gives Riek Machar what he could not achieve through his attempted coup to dislodge the president from power forcefully.

Therefore, Riek and Kiir will be co-presidents essentially with equal powers with each having the power to veto the other’s decisions.

There is enough evidence regarding the fact that the two leaders had eight years of bad working relationship. One would have to assume that the relationship would be ten times far worse than it had been previously given the level of animosity and distrust resulting from this conflict.

The proposal does nothing to recognize this acrimonious situation; instead, the proposal seems bent on adding highly combustible fuel to the situation.

Given the state of affairs just described, one can simply deduce the fact that the presidency is destined in this agreement to decent into anarchic paralysis magnified primarily by the acrimony between the two leaders and reinforced by the convoluted mechanics of its working proposed in this agreement.

In other words, with each having equal powers, the duel between the two is set to impede the normal running of the government as people will squabble even over trivial matters and with the apparent loathing, neither would be willing to compromise.

While there are three persons in the presidency, the third person has essentially no role or powers to break the deadlock, because the vice president has no meaningful contribution in the decision-making process.

This begs the question as to what is the value added of having a position that would not be a factor at all in leadership and decision-making?

In chapter one, Article 10.4, the Council of Ministers, an entity that is elevated above the presidency, in some circumstances, is given the power to break the deadlocks in the presidency.

However, the agreement also made sure that this planned anarchy is extended to the Council of Ministers, because decisions on substantive and controversial matters are reached by two-thirds majority (67%), which is impossible to achieve in a bitterly divided cabinet and presidency considering the power ratios.

Not only does this submission lead to perpetual conflict within the presidency and the cabinet, it makes the process of decision-making time consuming and conflict ridden and devalues the presidency in terms of its responsibilities and authority.

This is consistent with the broader scheme to make the process of making critical decisions difficult between the parties and give the JMEC the power to impose decisions on the parties and it essentially makes the government weak and unproductive.

The more serious question regards the logic behind the relegation and diffusion of the powers of an elected president when the position was never legitimately contested in an election.

Unlike Zimbabwe and Kenya, where President Mugabe and Morgan Tsvangirai, President Kibaki and Raila Odinga had to share power because elections outcomes were contested, the situation in South Sudan is completely different.

What we had in South Sudan was an attempted coup and so the sitting president is being forced to share power with someone who tried to take his position by force.

This proposal does not do justice to the people of South Sudan. It is entirely premised on rewarding violent usurpation of power, a clear antithesis to the democratic ideals that are supposedly espoused by IGAD and its international supporters.

It reflects really bad on those who preach the tenets of democracy and sends a wrong signal to those who harbor violent tendencies to rise to power.

In Article 10.5, the way the ministers and ministries are selected is crafted like a lottery. The proposal provides a formula for how ministries are going to be selected. The parties will choose ministries in rounds.

For example, the government will choose the first ministry and the opposition chooses the second ministry and so forth until all the 30 ministries are selected according to the power sharing ratios.

There are eight ministries that will have deputy ministers and so each party will nominate a deputy minister for each ministry that it has selected. This is essentially unworkable. Parties should be able to negotiate a better formula, not this lottery-like scheme.

Regarding the proposed expansion of the National Legislative Assembly to 400 members, the proposal makes no attempt to provide clarity and defense for this.

Though one can infer from the draft agreement the objective as a measure to make the SPLM-IO the second largest party in the parliament, there is nothing convincing about adding more people to an institution that remains diversely balanced and swollen in terms of the sheer numbers.

We are of the opinion that the expansion of the legislature is unjustifiable given that it was an elected legislature and expanding it to accommodate members of the opposition would be unfair to the constituencies that do not have members in the opposition.

The expansion of the legislature would not only be unfair, but it could create over representation of the Nuer community in the government, a situation that is likely to provoke other communities to embrace the use of violence to get over-represented; much of which is the aim of this agreement.

Extending this appeasement scheme to people’s house is clearly overdoing it.

In an attempt to align the agreement to the Transitional Constitution, Article 13 of the draft document proposes Pre-Transition Period National Constitutional Amendment Committee (NCAC).

The draft agreement instructs that upon signing this Agreement, the IGAD-led Mediation in consultation with the Parties and other stakeholders shall initiate the formation of a representative NCAC, with the mandate to complete the tasks necessary to prepare for the Transition Period and form the TGoNU.

This simply infringes on the work of the national legislature, which is sovereign and therefore on that ground, NCAC is unnecessary. The amendments can be initiated in the executive and the parliament would have to approve it as it is normally done.

Furthermore, Chapter 6 article 5.5 states, “the Transitional National Assembly shall be transformed into a Constituent Assembly on the 1st date of the 27th month of the Transition for purposes of adopting the Permanent Constitution after which it shall be dissolved preceding the Elections”.

No explanation is provided to justify this transformation of the legislature. The transitional assembly could adopt the constitution without being transformed into the constituency assembly, provided that it is done in conformity with the constitution.

Coming to the question of permanent ceasefire, which is contained in Chapter 2 of this proposed agreement, the proposal is consistent with the recommendations of the African Union Commission on the security sector reforms and the broader scheme to turn the country over to a coalition of international actors.

The objective of this section is not only aimed at transforming the security sector, is actually aimed at a complete destruction of the SPLA structures and rebuilding a new army on a clean slate.

Although some of the SPLA forces may be part of the new security apparatus, the scheme will not recognize existing structures.

The idea is that the current SPLA structure has a divided loyalty and it is inseparable from the SPLM.

Since it is not easy to destroy the SPLM for all the apparent reasons, one way you could achieve this is by cutting historical links to the SPLA by rebuilding a whole new military outfit.

The international actors are citing both Sierra Leone and Liberian experiences as possible models for rebuilding the army. This of course is a non-negotiable proposition and it should be rejected in earnest.

Though military restructuring and reforms are certainly necessary, they should not be aimed at erasing the historical legacy of the SPLA.

The same proposal prescribed the demilitarization of the national capital in Article 5 of chapter 2. Claiming that “the National Capital, Juba”, shall be designated as a Special Arrangement Area (SAA) and shall be demilitarized 25kms in radius from the center of the city and the demarcation of the area shall be agreed upon during the PCTSA workshop in terms of latitude / longitude”.

This means that the SPLA in Juba would have to leave the town except for a company of Presidential Guards with four platoons, which comes to 260 soldiers to protect the president and 195 soldiers to protect the First Vice President.

A third-party security unit comprising of forces from UNMISS, IGAD and the AU will provide security in Juba and to the government officials including the president. This protection force will not only provide security in the work places, but also in residences.

Obviously, this is perhaps the most telling article about the thinly veiled international disposition to establish a trusteeship in the Republic of South Sudan.

Juba, the capital city is the sovereign seat of the national government; to render it devoid of the national army is tantamount to a white coup.

The proposal simply confirms the intention of the international community to takeover the country.

There is no country in the world that remains sovereign whose national capital and its leadership is under the protection of foreign forces. This is essentially a non-starter and on sovereignty grounds alone, it should be rejected without hesitation.

The proposed Transitional Third Party Security Unit (TTPSU) referenced in Article 6 of the same chapter should also be rejected on the basis that it is an occupation force.

Another issue of serious concern is the proposed Strategic Defense and Security Review (SDSR) contained in chapter 2 Article 7.

The SDSR proposed mandate is to “undertake a comprehensive assessment of the requirements of South Sudan’s national army within one hundred and twenty (120) days from the signing of this Agreement to inform the formulation of the country’s Defense and Security policies that shall subsequently lead to the overall Security Sector Transformation (SST) process, including the future command, function, size, composition and budget of South Sudan’s national army and security forces, and DDR requirements”.

This proposal goes together with the broader objective of the proposed agreement, which is the foreign intervention in the country.

In order to achieve this seizure of our sovereignty, it has to be assumed that there is no national army and therefore a new national army has to be created from the scratch.

This assumption is of course sinister on the part of those proposing it and on that basis, such a proposal should not be entertained.

Article 8 tackles the Unification of Forces. Again, this proposition assumes that there are two equal forces that should be unified and it talks about forces in Juba and the Greater Upper Nile region being given the priority.

The issue with this article is that there are no two equal forces. There is the SPLA, the national army and there are rebel forces, some of which defected from the national army.

Therefore, there should be no unification of forces; instead, there should be reintegration of rebel forces into the national army. This proposal conforms to the same notion that there is no national army and that a new one would have to be built.

In Chapter 3 Article 2, a Special Reconstruction Fund (SRF) is recommended. There is no major objection to the creation of such fund, but Article 6.2.5 of the same chapter stipulates that the proportion of the natural resource wealth of South Sudan shared with the States and counties shall be increased and that the terms of the increment and formulae to be applied shall be determined in the permanent constitution.

Such arrangements should not be included in the constitution as they are subject to many changing conditions. Perhaps a separate law should govern this, but not the constitution.

In chapter 4, the draft agreement proposes the creation of Economic and Financial Management Authority (EFMA).

There is no concern with the establishment of such a body, but the advisory body, which is essentially a foreign body made up of the World Bank, International Monetary Fund, African Development Bank, Common Market for Eastern and Southern Africa (COMESA), PTA Bank, UN-Economic Commission for Africa, United Nations Development Program, and three (3) major donor representatives is certainly a concern.

The sheer number of institutions that make up the advisory body is puzzling. Why do you have to bring all these world institutions into an advisory board?

The motive may be that these institutions would be ready to takeover the financial institutions if the EFMA does not work or does its job efficiently.

Chapter 5, Article 3 recommends the establishment of Hybrid Court for South Sudan (HCSS) whose mandate would be to try suspected cases of genocide, war crimes and crimes against humanity under international law.

This court, which according to the proposal should be established through an MOU between the Transitional Government of National Unity (TGoNU), African Union and United Nations will see its staff and judges jointly appointed by the Chairperson of AU and UN General Secretary.

The proposal specifies that HCSS shall have primacy over any national courts of RSS.

Perhaps, this institution is proposed under the assumption that South Sudan’s legal institutions do not have the capacity or the will to carry out justice in the country.

The scheme of course fits with the international ploy to intervene in the country. This provision will ensure that those who may be obstacle to the international intervention could be dragged to court under the pretext that they have committed war crimes.

Given this reality, it is preferable for the people of South Sudan to deal with justice and accountability matters within their own customary systems as well as statutory mechanisms.

Doing this, we believe will speed up the process of healing, reconciliation and justice.

An international court such as the one proposed may not enjoy the cooperation of the state and the citizens and therefore would delay justice and it is most likely to delay the achievement of peace and reconciliation in the country.

Further, the proposal talks about the court having jurisdiction in respect to matters of genocide and other crimes committed since December 2013.

Since when has IGAD determined genocide as having been committed in South Sudan?

This is telling enough in a sense that there is a serious degree of prejudice and bias against South Sudan and this is sufficient to warrant objection to the creation of such an international body.

Chapter 7 of this proposal recommends the establishment of Joint Monitoring and Evaluation Commission (JMEC).

While we see the importance of having a body that can monitor and evaluate the progress in terms of the implementation of the peace agreement, we are simply stunned by the proposed powers of the Joint Monitoring and Evaluation Commission (JMEC).

According to IGAD, JMEC will be tasked with overseeing the implementation of the agreement, a mandate that essentially guarantees this body “the power to take corrective action in the event of non-compliance with the terms of the agreement”.

Moreover, the proposal intends to make JMEC more than just a body that is entrusted to monitor and evaluate the performance and progress with respect to the peace agreement but rather a powerful governance institution that “shall oversee institutions created or operating during the Transition”.

To ensure that JMEC fulfills its mandate, “all transitional institutions” are expected to regularly report to it.

JMEC itself draws its power from the UN Security Council (UNSC) and the African Union Peace and Security Council.

This provision alone is enough for one to draw a conclusion about the fact that this country is going to be run through JMEC using a series of UNSC resolutions.

Although a prominent African personality will chair this body, appointed by the IGAD Assembly of Heads of State and Government in consultation with IGAD-PLUS partners, it is the Security Council that shall enforce its mandate.

This is consistent with the recommendations of the African Union Commission proposal that recommends the creation of High Level Oversight Panel. This body will have overbearing powers that would clearly undercut the legitimacy of the government and will certainly infringe on our sovereignty and so it should be rejected.

The body should be supported in as far as it can monitor and verify violations and refer its findings to the principals of the parties to the agreement for resolution.

The chapter of this proposed agreement that raises serious questions is chapter 8. It suggests that the Agreement shall be fully incorporated into the Transitional Constitution of South Sudan, 2011 (TCoSS), in the event that the provisions of the TCoSS conflicts with the terms of this Agreement, the terms of this Agreement shall prevail.

Additionally, this Agreement shall take precedence over any national legislation, and in the event that the provisions of national legislation conflict with the terms of this Agreement, this Agreement shall prevail.

This, in our view, is the undoing of the legitimacy of the state and government and it completes the transfer of power from South Sudan government to the transitional authority, which is in the body of JMEC. Hence, this provision should be rejected.

In conclusion, while we are committed to the return of peace and stability to South Sudan, the latest IGAD-Plus proposal does absolutely nothing to expedite and resolve in any meaningful way the current crisis; it actually delays and exacerbates the crisis.

Moreover, it seems very clear that those who are hell bent to usurp the sovereignty and independence of the Republic of South Sudan are trying their best to seriously undermine genuine efforts to end this senseless war.

We are now convinced that the IGAD-led mediation has failed; we advise the parties to seek alternative mechanisms.

Signed on behalf of Jieng Council of Elders (JCE):

Justice Ambrose Riny Thiik

Hon. Joshua Dau Diu

Hon. Aldo Ajou Deng

Hon. Maker Thiong Maal

Hon. Daniel Dhieu Matuet

Hon. Lewis Anei Kuendit

51 Comments

  1. Eastern says:

    As usual, the JCE have once again shown their true intensions.

    South Sudan is a country that’s home to more than 60 unique tribes, not jenges alone.

    The 53% allocated to SPLA-Riek in Greater Upper Nile region has nothing to do with nuer population as the 100% given to SPLA-Kiir has nothing to do with Kiir’s popularity in the other reusing seven states of South Sudan; Northern and Western Bahr el Ghazal States are already awash with SPLA-Riek. There’s rebellion brewing in parts of Western Equatoria already.

    The sooner the JCE advises Kiir to look at the proposed compromised agreement with a South Sudanese lenses rather than a jenge one, the better for him.

    This proposed IGAD-Plus compromise agreement is the LAST BEST CHANCE for Kiir to remain at the helm of South Sudan. Kiir’s tenure of office has long ended.

  2. Raan Naath says:

    This so-called Jieng (Dinka) Council of Elders has proved to be a dangerous tribal intellectual grouping that was responsible for pushing Salva Kiir into starting the war against the Nuer and have continued to utter tribal sentiments against the Nuer nation and other communities. What is stunning is also the fact that they are bent to lie to the world in trying to justify their tribal views in regard to political and wealth sharing issues. This Dinka tribal group is against peace in South Sudan and hoping to build a Dinka empire on the skeletons of other tribes. They are wrong, the tribal war they are singing of can never be in their interest in the end. How could the so-called intellectuals including a former Chief Justice of South Sudan, Ambrose Ring Thiik, who chairs this dangerous tribal group, stoop so low in promoting tribalism, dictatorship and wars in the young nation.

    • info@southsudannation says:

      Raan Naath,
      You’re absolutely right, the JCE ‘is against peace and hoping to build a Dinka empire on the skeletons of other tribes.’
      As learned people, it’s sad to see from their analysis that they have totally rubbished the entire IGAD-PLUS proposals and as sure as it appears, South Sudan is in for a long period of political uncertainty.
      Clearly, the JCE, at the behest of the SPLM/SPLA, are determined to cling to power no matter what other South Sudanese might think or might want. Just look at what they are doing now in Yambio, Meridi or Mundri and other places.
      Personally, I now believe that it was Dr. John Garang who impregnated the divisive and devious Jieng imperialism on his scions, the Kiirs, Kuol Manyangs, Malongs, etc…, most certainly, if he was still alive today, things might have been worse today.
      Editor

      • Joana Adams says:

        The Infamous Council,
        The illegitimate genocidal president claimed to have formed 3 thematic committees led by Awut Deng, Beshir Bandi and what’s his name? South Sudanese are entitled to be briefed by Kiir about the outcome in a serious manner and not in passing as he tried to do. And what do we get instead, a lecture by an unconstitutional body whose members are complicit in the ethnically motivated massacre of Nuers in Jubà in Dec 2013.
        What is more insulting other than the same suspected war criminals hypocritically coming to the defence of the Nuers in government as if those Nuers have lost their dignity and can no longer speak for themselves. Who doesn’t know about the old colonial policy of divide and rule? Injustice Ambrose Ring and cohorts should know that no matter how much they loathe Riek Machar, he is a citizen and entitled to leadership position. The Jieng Council of Evil must never loose sight of the fact that many South Sudanese loathe Kiir in equal measures if not more. To many what makes the proposed Agreement preposterous is not the question of simple arithmetic the Jieng have indulged in but ethical incompatibility of having a blood stained x -president to even be considered in the” collegial”interim presidency.
        This is not a western conspiracy. Under the circumstance of a failed government and a near failed state, the principal of collegial presidency must be seriously considered. As regards the issue of “two armies”, that must certainly be better than one tribal army having the prerogative to butcher other ethnicities or issuing orders to shoot to kill at will. And why should only one son of a cattle keeper who grew up in Luak be protected by nearly 300 presidential guards when he has failed to protect the lives of his citizens?
        Isn’t the fact that Central Equatoria cannot protect its own state capital is an act and result of bullying by the central government. Why should illiterate cattle keepers from Warrap be brought in to cause havoc in Juba in the name of the criminal tribal SPLA army? where are the educated, professional sons and daughters of Equatoria who could competently police their city?
        IGAD plus must not be intimidated by these yester beggers. Juba must be demilitarised, and Equatoia states must be empowered to protect the national capital.
        Nobody is dividing anybody or anything. The Jieng Council of Evil and their looney cowboy illegitimate president must bear the responsibility out of their tribal bigotry for dividing the people, destroying the social fabrics and plunging the country into civil war. What the infamous Council should be doing is to conduct a research to establish how many of the 63 tribes actually want to share a country with morally deranged people who have twisted logic- people who glorify killing as a measure of strength.

        Joana

        Joana

        • Choromke Jas says:

          Sister and Editor,

          This centre of evil is getting more brazen by the day. Do you know that the JCE recently arrogantly summoned the Equatorian MP Caucus in the National Assembly for a dressing down? However, it was rebuffed by the Equatorians who questioned the constitutional legitimacy and authority of this evil tribal outfit to summon dully elected representatives of the people of Equatoria. JCE has no locus standi (Ambrose are you reading?).

          These days JCE usurps up the office spaces in the Assembly and the Council of State buildings for their nefarious meetings where they plot how to slaughter innocent people in this unfortunate nation. Their interpretation of the draft agreement is spot on, but what is their alternative scenario. They pretend that they have sovereignty and thus the Jieng can do as the like, such as causing genocide against the Nuer. But this proposal was drafted by those who created the notion of sovereignty and the present world order. For an idiotic tribal cabal to utter such nonsense against the World is unbelievably breathtaking. Ambrose, you will end up in jail, for you refuse to learn while you were in the UK. Instead, you preferred to ferry drug peddlers in your taxi. The world is coming to Juba, Mr Injustice Ring Thick!

        • Hardtarget says:

          Joana,

          I admire the way you articulate facts. God bless you.

          They say “every day is for the thief one day for the owner of the house”. I take it as a mere rambling of blood suckers and losers.

          The can fool and buy our leader but not the whole world, coz when the gods speaks these bourgeois click of tribalist will get a share of their betrayal.

          The painful thing is that majority of vulnerable jeing are suffering in IDP/refugee camps, yet this soul less individuals with their families abroad have the audacity of singing song of war – How wicked!!!

  3. Francis Mangok Angeir says:

    Dear Jieng Council of Elders,
    Thank you for your greatly concerned and opinion on IGAD-Plus Proposed Compromise Agreement, I truly appreciated your great insight into the situation that facing South Sudanese. As South Sudanese citizen and man of God who love to hear other voices of other elders of the country I have questions for you. What is the opinion of other South Sudanese Council of Elders? What do they think about this IGAD-plus Proposed Compromise Agreement? However, the reason I asked these questions is not because I am against your opinion; you have right to agree and disagree on any proposals that cannot bring the permanent peace agreement in the country because you are part of this peace agreement, but I would also like to hear the best regard opinion of other Council of elders on this issues.

    During Joshua leadership, “Joshua called for Israel, for their elders, for their heads, for their judges, and for their officers and said to them: “I am old, advanced in age (Joshua 23:2).” Every leadership elders have great opinion to rescue the situation of the country, but collectively from entire elders of the country. Yes, the first of Joshua two farewell addresses was to the leaders, their elders, heads, judges and officers at Shiloh and later he would speak to his entire populations at Shechem. What does this story tell us is how to handle the situation in the leadership and problem-solving is always needs the elders who have gentle hearts for the country and nationally put their opinion and suggestion on issues that affect the nation.

    In this situation of Joshua according to his concern of the country, He also careful and reassured the leaders and elders that even though he would die, the same God who had helped them in every situation of their past exploits would help them in the future. As man of God, I hope God’s workers change over this darkness time. But, what we need is unity, love and working together in order to bring the unity among the countrymen and women.

    Involvement of other tribes’ opinion and suggestion into this IGAD-plus Proposals Compromise Agreement is very important because it would make your disagreement strong and respectful. “One hand would not clap itself, but two hands could” I hope you significantly understand this. In Ephesians 4:16 says “according to the effective working by which every part does its share, cause growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.” Every member is necessary for the country development and peace growth and effectiveness. Love result when the whole body is working together, but when one of the body is missing it will make the whole body weak. Exclusivity of other elders’ opinion would make opinion weak and I love you all to think about that because I love the whole body to work properly. God creates two hands to clap together and that is what we also need in South Sudan. Together we would contribute most and make our country to develop. Thank you and God bless you.

    • Lavina Lual says:

      Pasta Francis-

      I must confess based on your positive response to the Jieng Council of Elders (JCE) that you are a true Christian and a lover of God when you said “One hand would not clap itself, but two hands could” meaning the JCE should not assumed themselves as the Alpha and Omega in dealing with national issues but together we can go ahead as a nation other than putting ahead an agenda of one tribe to represent all the 64 communities.

      I am glad that the God of Israel that gave our ancestors this land called the RSS to all the 64 or more communities to be free from the Arab is now speaking to the JCE speedily and it is up to the JCE and the likes to start behaving responsibly towards other South Sudanese or go back to their former Arab masters as slaves in Khartoum-Period.
      As you said when Joshua became old he did spoke to the elders and leaders of Israel under his control and that was the end of his lineage of Kingdom anyway. Toward the end of Judges, the line is repeated “In those days there was no king in Israel” (17:6; 18:1; 19:1; 21:25). This is after the land termed flowing with milk and honey ends up a land flooded with Canaanite enemies, idols, scandals, and bloodshed as portrayed in Kiir 2013 to date rule.

      This story of Joshua is quite relevant to South Sudan:
      The book of Judges depicts Israel stuck in a vicious cycle. First come commitment and a starting point of hope (like God’s raising up of a judge). Then come an act of rebellion or disobedience on the part of Israel. Next, God punishes his people for their breach of trust, with the punishment often taking the form of handing them over to their enemies (see 2:14)-Dr Riek Machar for our case.

      At the end of the story the Israelites started to do what was good for all of them togtehr with the rise of Judges after Joshua which is going to be our case. Meaning after Kiir dies or taken away from power; South Sudanese will start doing the right thing for the nation that pleases everybody at least not in the like of the JCE that only work for Jieng Affairs
      Despite that Joshua cries and prayed to God by uttering that the same God who had helped them in every situation of their past exploits would help them in the future, power slipped out form Joshua’s line for ever which represent Jieng for our case of the RSS because God refused to listen to his prayers and gave Israel to Joshua’s opponent just like the coming of Dr Riek….

      LL

  4. Hoiloom says:

    Folks, this is the official position of the government. Ironically Dinka Council of Elders run South Sudan and one wonders what the function of parliament could be in this scenario. JCE argues that Nuer constitutes 15% of South Sudan population based on 2008 census. If my memory has not failed me there was no ethnicity or religions affiliation in 2008 census form hence where did JCE come up with 15%? Secondly SPLM-IO is a national movement which has members across South Sudan therefore one would assume the 53% in Greater Upper Nile would not all go to one ethnic group and 33% of national government respectively.
    One thing that JCE failed to acknowledge in their article is what justification does Kiir have to be allocated 100% in Greater Equatoria and Bhar el Gazal? Does it mean that Kiir enjoys 100% support in the mentioned two regions?
    If this indeed is the position of the government then let the people of South Sudan embrace themselves for a long suffering. Negotiation is about give and take, a simple compromise, however it seems the Dinka are not ready for peace.

    Hoiloom

    • info@southsudannation says:

      Hoiloom,
      Kiir’s presumptuous domination of the so-called “Greater” Equatoria (100%) is cynically justified by the silence or betrayal of so-called Equatorian leaders in the SPLM/SPLA and government.
      The problem is that every day, the Clement Kongas, the Bakasoros, the Louis Lobongs, the Anna Ittos and of course the ever domesticated slave, Wani Igga, keep turning the other cheeks for the Kiir-leaning JCE to slap.
      Today, Kiir’s government has 0.00000001% support in the Greater Equatoria but the betrayal of those leaders mentioned above whose monetized self-interests of political prostitution comes first, is the problem.
      Today, the Azandes, Bakas and Morus are being blatantly massacred, yesterday it was the Madis and Acholis being pulverized, already the Toposas are colonized but tomorrow it will be the turn of the Konga’s Mundaris, the Oboto Mamur’s Latukos and the Wani-Igga’s Bari-speakers.
      Guess what, who will then come to their rescue……nobody!!!!
      That’s when Kiir’s government will indeed have the 100% support of an enslaved and colonized “Lesser” Equatoria!!!!
      Editor

  5. Francis Mangok Angeir says:

    Folks,

    I think we have language generalization problem here and I think the proper language nouns or plural countable nouns we should used should be some people, many people instead of Dinka, Nuer in general because if we go to Rebels side there are many Dinka or government side you can see many Nuer supporters. How can you justified that situation? Let us be open-minded, we have been using improper language that will not bring the unity to our country. If you are talking to President Kiir as a leader of the SPLM Party please be specific or Dr. Reik Machar as a leader of SPLM-O please be specific because Nuer are not all the rebels or Dinka are not all Kiir supporters. How many Dinka are in Rebels and how many Nuer are in government? Do not use the language that would not make sense always to the readers. Yes, sometime you can use some of Dinka or some of Nuer are against peace in South Sudan in order to make the readers to pay attention, this is my opinion thank you.

  6. defender says:

    “There is no country in the world that remains sovereign whose national capital and its leadership is under the protection of foreign forces. This is essentially a non-starter and on sovereignty grounds alone, it should be rejected without hesitation.”
    These two sentences suffer greatly from foot and mouth disease! Where is the proclaimed sovereignty since Ugandans are the ones protecting the national capital? If the JCE is serious about peace and fair representation of power in the current document, at least, they must show some sincerity in their argument. By authoring this document, they have clearly and without a doubt, are the mouth peace/official spokespeople for the government.

  7. deng handbol says:

    Ya Jaang council of Mafia, you are not only evil doers but also equivocators. How can you claim that the majority of people in Lich state (unity state) are supporting traitor Joseph Nguen Mounytuil, whose biological father is a Dinka from Abimnoum.In other words, he(Nguen) and his brother Baapin are children born out of wedlock. And therefore they have decided to defend their biological father tribe . Coming to your claim, it is not true to mention that the people of Lich,Naath homeland are being Nguen supporters.The fact is, the population of Lich (unity state) is over one million. Panaruu Dinka population is 72’000 according to 2010 census. Plus Abimnoum Dinka population which is 24,000. The total population of Jaang in Lich state is 96,000. In addition to Bul Nuer clan population, the Naath betrayers which is estimated 138 thousands plus 96,000 of Jaang will make 234,000 out of one million.
    Hence, based on aforementioned, the vast majority of Naath population in Lich state are SPLM-OI supporters in other words, more than 700,000 are Dr. Riek Mahar supporters. Any way,you are just a mangy cur or a cowardly despicable Arab slaves. Dinka council of Mafia, Have you forget that your a canisters were the slaves of Al-Zubayr Pasha during 19- century? You were known there after as south Sudanese tribe of Arab-Turk slaves.You should thank the former British prime minster William Ewart Glodstone, who sent gen Gordon Pasha to Sudan so that to salvage you from slavery.

    Please read this message from Wikipedia: “Al-Zubayr Rahma Mansur (Arabic: الزبير رحمة منصور‎) (also Sebehr Rahma, Rahama Zobeir[1]) was proclaimed by the British to be a slave trader in the late 19th-century, he later became a pasha and Sudanese governor.
    His reputation as a nemesis of General Charles Gordon meant he was bestowed a near-mythic status in England, where he was referred to as “the richest and worst”, a “Slaver King” “who [had] chained lions as part of his escort”.[2][3] However, modern Sudanese deny this orientalist take on Al-Zubayr (especially the exaggerated slave trader status) and regard him highly.
    Born in 1830, Rahma came from the Gemaab section of the Ja’Alin, an Arab tribe from Northern Sudan.

    He began his large-scale business in 1856, when he left Khartoum with a small army, to set up a network of trading forts known as zaribas, focusing his efforts on slave trading and ivory sales. At its height his trading empire, backed by a personal army, controlled much the Bahr el Ghazal as well as what are today parts of Chad and the Central African Republic.

    In 1871, at the height of his power, Rahma was visited by Georg Schweinfurth, who described the slavetrader’s court as “little less than princely”.[4] Isma’il Pasha of Egypt desired control over the region, but Rahma defeated a mercenary army sent against him. Instead in 1873 Isma’il added the region to his empire by acknowledging Rahma’s power and granting him the title of Governor over Bahr el Ghazal.”

    Deng Hanbol from Mayeinded county in Lich State, the Ultimate foe of Jaang tribe.

  8. Dr Andy says:

    Dear All,
    The Jieng Council of Elders are not South Sudanese alone . They are entitled to their opinion as we are as well. They have no other options but to support the Government since that is the only source of their income. They are Foodician who have no interest of the other 71 tribes in South Sudan. Let us ignore them and support IGAD in finding lasting peace and stoppage of killing all around South Sudan. Some of these Foodicians do not care whether people are dying or not because they are well protected by the Government. Let us as South Sudanese look not narrowly like they are at the moment. What IGAD Plus has proposed can be compromised further but it is a well written document which must be supported and improved as soon as possible. There is nothing wrong in the proposal which should agitate us South Sudanese to reject the document completely. Those who are rejecting it are the one inviting further problems and not the document the “Comprise Peace Agreement”. For sure if not carefully handled South Sudan is going to vanish from the Map of Africa and the world in the near future. Jieng Council of elders have some vision.

  9. Hoiloom says:

    Editor

    Thanks for the analysis! South Sudan will go through rough period before things get better. Equatorians’ position is at stake here and must make their voices heard. It is clear now Kiir will not sign the peace deal comes August 17.

    Hoiloom

  10. Rajab says:

    I think the best thing for IGAD-PLUS to do is to block the two principal warring parties from participating in the
    government of National Unity.
    For the JCE they should come to their senses.The idea they are holding that they want to dominate other tribes here
    in SouthSudan is not going to work believe me or not.Please take care JCE.

  11. Kajokeji Lokuron says:

    Jieng Elders,
    Thank you for taking the time to tear apart almost all the proposed compromise draft agreement for the resolution of the crisis in South Sudan. Since you have proven to be the real parliament behind President Kirr Mayardit, it is advisable that you have to make some tangible suggestions to your President to present to the IGAD-PLUS for consideration. Otherwise it is unwise or meaningless to criticize but offer no solution. If you think that the status quo is good enough for South Sudan, please say so, and communicate that to IGAD-PLUS through your default president Salva Kirr. I must admit that some of your members are smart enough to figure out that some of the provisions may lead to separation of the country. Surely, people are tired of the present system of governance and they need a fundamental change of the entire system, which essentially is the rebooting of the entire system with different set of mentality.

  12. the society is in danger when those who have not learn how to obey are given the right to command. (I think it’s clear our enemy are DINKA)our killer are dinka no one can kill in south sudan apart from dinka so what are we waiting for we have to kill them.starting from 18/8/2015 morning.

  13. I think this is aright time to rebel against the dinka,they are protected by the government (dinka government) because they have military which is mathing anyoor and they have political wing which is JCEand it’s killing the non-dinkas ,yambio maridi,nomle,wau ,greater upper Nile how can we leave them like this,if no dinka no problem in south sudan but if their is dinka then we have problems. dinka is the enemy of non-dinka in south sudan.that is acommon knowledge.let the international community know this.

  14. Hardtarget says:

    Elders!

    I am sorry to say you are the ones dividing the Country by preaching tribalism, hate and meddling into politics. The world now know your motives and there is no amount of talk that will change the perception

    You failed to advise Kiir rightly. you gave him the believe that majority is supremacy, how wrong you are!! it took the world some time to know that HUTU majority were genocidal and must be dispelled

    It equally took decades for USA to realized they were supporting a power hungry murderer in Angola(Savimbi)

    Now the writing is on the wall, we either make peace among our selves or risk being force out of power and there is nothing you can do about it.

    Stop threatening people that we will decent into Somali or Irag like situation -KIDIB. we are a land locked country.-when foreign forces take over how will you ship in your ammunition?
    The same division you created will be used to hammer you to submission if need be for ever.

    We should have convent all inclusive national conference on ending the conflict, discuss with all sincerity make sacrifices, leave the greed and forge a way forward.

    I buy Lam Akol’s idea of forming government let by technocrats and forget singing the Legitimacy song. We can do that just like how Benin did it till now its peaceful.

    I can bet with my last button that SPLM days are numbered because the lone supporter, Musevein is gradually getting frustrated, he won’t identify with a looser, a SMART politician, very unpredictable. if he could not save M23 from been hammered out of Congo, how will he save SPLA from foriegn forces?? When foreign forces decent UPDF will withdraw and even support them including giving them intelligent information in exchange for some favors.

    That is when we will realized our foolish ego

  15. Robert says:

    JCE is not South Sudan government. The ongoing peace talks is between political entities, not tribal institutions as the doomed JCE would like people to perceive.

    Let me ask JCE members; The proposal gave 100% to Kiir in other 7 states, does the dinka represent 100% in those 7 states? of course not, but this represent government quota in the equation.

    The proposal in its entirety is subject to discussion. Comments are welcome from the government, the opposition, including political parties leadership. There is no political party called JCE in the Republic of South Sudan.

  16. Thon Giei says:

    Jieng Council of Elders has come out with a position paper based on their understanding of the proposed compromise agreement of IGAD. They have quoted and refuted IGAD article by article. This is well substantiated response of what they see as an attempt by IGAD to medel into the affairs of South Sudan and install itself with the blessing of the rebels to be the rulers of South Sudan, which is a day time dreaming. We know IGAD is a weak organization and sooner is going to break a part over this proposal. I say the culprit Ethiopia of Desalegn is going to be alone when the giant SPLA shows it red eyes. USA and others are going to stop using strong worded televised statements.
    Now what about southsudannation.com activists and warriors. come up with your own analysis of the compromise agreement and sell it out to all like Jieng Council of Elders. This time, things have turned real and IGAD and Riek rebels will get the message.
    Time has come for IGAD to mind its business or cease to exist or South Sudan needs to get out of it. Full stop

  17. Wau Naar says:

    South Sudan is a family with the wrong members in control.

    Our problem is the SPLM (the Ruling Party) not Dinka, Nuer or Shilluk – Bari, Mundari or Zande – These are symptoms.
    The problem is the sick SPLM, whether it is the SPLM in Government, the SPLM in Opposition, the SPLM-DC or the GREEDY 10 – These are the diseases – We need to get rid of them by hook or by crook.

    SPLM has failed to captain South Sudan; it is time for them to be crew.

    • Deng Monymor says:

      SPLM/SPLA has not failed South Sudan; it liberated South Sudan and without it no South Sudan people would be talking about now, so please stop talking as if you don’t know what happened yesterday.

      • Defender says:

        Monymor,

        The legacy of yesterday is well deserved to be in the museum. This is where the SPLM mantra of liberation must be hanged. The liberation phase has ended and what is awaiting us is the period of development. This is where the SPLM failed beyond repair. Thomas Sankara once said, “A liberator without an ideology is a potential criminal.” This quote sums it all my fellow country person. We cannot ride on the back of liberation horse while the people are dying left, right and center.
        The people have spoken but those with unbridled power that has no check think that a state is something that belongs to them. Wake up man, join the rest of us who want our country to move beyond the state of nature, to something that resembles the hope that inspired the liberation struggle.

        • Deng Monymor says:

          Defender,

          When people try to look at problem without history, those people are doomed to confusion. Looking at how things are in South Sudan, are we not dealing with Riek Machar who has the same repeated phrases of yesterday? Also, those who think that the so-called International Community is helping South Sudan finding peace are dreamers who never know anything of yesterday history. If Congo has not taught us anything, you might proclaim to know what you don’t know, Cousin! We are dealing with what took place back in the day—greed for leadership by any means. Are you aware of this, Cousin?

          With SPLA as historic army, the fact that many armies were formed but abandoned to rejoin SPLA speaks for itself. I am aware of the hidden agenda against this historical army, so don’t ask me to “wake up.” If anyone needs waking up, it would be you for it seems you know not what is going on with these Internet activists, you included.

          For advice, can you take time to study African heroes and what happened to them, and for what reasons? If you do with nationalistic mind, you will know that it is the same–greed for natural resources. I know you will run to Libya for your argument, and if you do, be honest to yourself before to me.

        • Hardtarget says:

          God Bless u defender

  18. Simba says:

    Thank you Jieng Council of Elders for this informative piece although for you it has unintended consequences. Now I can clearly see the MERITS of IGAD plus.

  19. joe says:

    Walahi jce. They jieng elders runs this country and the president is done with everything powers bostowed on him by the constitution

  20. Francis Mangok Angeir says:

    Dear Wau Naar,

    Thank you God bless you this is a language I would like to hear from South Sudanese. We are family who have been suffering under SPLM leadership especially after independence South Sudanese innocents are suffering. These government send all their children to study in neighboring countries while innocents children are suffering and study under trees in South Sudan. Millions of dollars has been invested outside the country instead of investing them inside the country by building private schools, business and hospital for poor innocents citizen of the country.

    Stop killing one another and think what to do as citizens of the country, Bari, Zande, Shilluk, Murel, Mundari, Nuer, Dinka Achoil and so on we are one family. Unity and talk to the government to stop sending out your money without doing this you will be poor forever. Kenya, Ethiopia and Uganda economic is growing because of your wealth, your millions of Dollars for oil goes to those countries. Some millions of dollars goes to Europe stop what is so called Dinka and Nuer or Bari and join your hands to bring the change to the government, but not through the violence, but non-violence campaign. Please government you must stop sending our millions of dollars out and begins to invest them inside the country. Wake up and stop this corruption why do we have been fighting for all these years is it to make other countries rich for our wealth? No this is wrong we have to build schools for our orphans who their fathers and mothers died in the war. If you keep sending your children to study in Kenya, Uganda and Ethipoia and leave those orphans children behind to study under trees, this is not going to bring peace to the country believe me. NO,NO, NO this is not a reason, God listens to me I am crying SPLM leaders have to bring their money back home to build the schools for (an orphans children please).

    Please, Jieng Council of Elders tell President Kiir to stop sending their children to Kenya, Uganda and Ethiopia to study their and leave behind those an orphan children to study under tree and some have no school. Please God will bless you for doing that.

  21. Abiel says:

    It seen like all South Sudanese failed to handle the issue and they failed to make amandament on the IGAD proposal but JCE came out with their opinions and I wondering why the other communities didn’t come out with their opinions and we have so called Nuer community,Chullok community,greater Eqaturia community and many other communities in South Sudan.South Sudanese if you want peace to come please give your opinions instead of blaming each other.if you fail to do that than let us create new states give each tribe his own state especially in greater upper Nile.give Nuer their own states,give Dinka their own states,give greater Bibor their own state, give Cholluk their own state and other to stop somthnig called percentage in state government. and the state government will be responsibility on his own army then when you reached the label of the patriotism make the good system you wanted.I mean full federal system.

  22. False Millionaire says:

    Dr Andy,
    I believe I am in agreement with u.The further compromises to be sought after should include excluding Riak and Kiir from politics and having the UN trusteeship taking over RSS immediately instead of going through a transitional period with them in power.I think this point is very important if the objective is to stop any further bloodshed!!!

    • Bol says:

      FM
      Exclusion… Trusteeship are good things to reboot the systems…The problem is nobody wants to bear the cost. RSS must find their own way of cleaning up the mess.

    • GatCharwearbol says:

      False Millionaire,

      Finally, you have put on your logical thinking cap. What took you so long to realize this? From the start, I and many others observed this point of excluding these two from politic. Reboot the system they have infested with tribalism, nepotism, favoriticism, and malpractice of all sorts. This has been our position and it remains. But with absent of logic from many, it has proven difficult to sell this idea because the beneficiaries prefer to maintain the status quo. This, in turn, give these two a room to exploit their tribal cards. Our fault it is.

  23. madut Arou -Upper Nile state -Akoka county says:

    the so call IGAD and thier partners United nations of America wanted to play for sovereignty of south Sudan, But we’re strong enough to say no to any foreign invasion we have fought enough for this country for almost 21 years
    or more than that and we should not give it so cheap like this to those criminal and betrayal of people of south Sudan
    since during leliberation struggle they have been letting people down
    so we’re rejected this peace proposal in strongest term possible ..we in upper Nile we will never and never accepted
    this peace proposal and we will do what it all take for us to defend our people and resources from those criminal
    and i am sure they will not attempt to take it by any means from us

  24. Onyi says:

    This JCE will be taught a lession by the US bse the US was not so stupid enough to have South Sudan break away from the rest of Sudan. They taught South Sudanese would embrace themselves as a people of one nation. Not a people of tribes where one would always sit on the others heads!!!

  25. Thon Giei says:

    Onyi: What USA? the one that can not convince US congress about Obama healtcare? and can not enforce it. Do not wait for some thing that is not going to come. Reik rebels will be crushed and smashed to nothing, I am telling you. the rebellion is over

  26. Deng says:

    The Council of Crimonals are rejecting the IGAD’s proposal to end suffering of the Nation. Please try to think well before time runs out and you will not have a place in South Sudan.

  27. Francis Mangok Angeir says:

    Dear South Sudanese,
    Where the International Community is? Faithful South Sudanese Pastors are going to face the death penalty in Sudan. Where is Dr. Reik and President Kirr? Where are those who think International Community are helping South Sudanese. In the name of God I pray these faithful brothers would get released please God we are not mistaken to love you and worship you. Oh God listen to my prayers.
    In South Sudan there are thousands Muslim and they are free to worship their God. Why South Sudanese Christians in Khartoum are always convicted by worshipping God. I appeal to our Brothers South Sudanese Muslim to request these South Sudanese in Khartoum to be released by Bashir otherwise the freedom of Muslimian should be not allow in South Sudan. I am not going to be happy if this happen. God bless them.

  28. Francis Mangok Angeir says:

    Our Brothers Yat Michael and Peter Yen are going to face death penalty soon in Khartoum Sudan. Please Pray for their released thanks.

    • Eastern says:

      They have been released but denied exit from the Sudan.

    • Lavina Lual says:

      Brother Francis-
      As a christian I joined you in these prayers.

      These two pastors will not be killed or hang to death because the blood of Jesus Christ have redeemed them from death. The Angels of God will arrest the situation and brings judgment to the camps of the enemies.

      The God of Israel that rescued Daniel from the dense of the lions will save our two pastors – Yat Michael and Pastor Peter Yen (Daniel 6:16) in Jesus’ Name…Amen!

      I also concur with your concern of the unnecessary freedom that is given out to the Muslims in the RSS to room anyhow spreading this Islamic terroristic religion to our masses. I hate the Arabs slaves who are ruling this country.

      I felt hurt every time I see kiir and his jienge plus their followers moving with Muslims hands in hands putting the future of our religion in a challenge in this country. This is the same religion terrorising the whole world and forcing people to their faith.

      I only differ with you when you said the west is not protecting South Sudanese because we cannot have it both. The jienge Government of your community is saying to hell with the west and why would the west you already declared an enemy again?, are we double standard republic.

      Secondly, it could be none of the western business to infiltrate in such affairs because of the way the jienge Government is pampering the spread of Islamic Religion in the RSS. Wouldn’t you complaint if the west also start interfering with religious affairs since you-the RSS under the jienge seems to invite Islam???

      LL

  29. John Kijana says:

    This Jienge Council of Elders (JCE) or rather Aryan Jienge Council of Elders. We say “Ya Aryan Jienge kudwal kudwal”. So goes our rhymes as small children as we used to sing to naked jienges who used to live around Nyaing, Juba na Bari in the early 70s when they used to carry for us water from Konyo Konyo on donkey carts. Oh! how days have changed. How we now miss our aryan jienges.

    • Francis Mangok Angeir says:

      John Kijana,

      I think it is not a crime or bad when you give your brother water to drink or to cook, but I think the bad things forever is when somebody pregnancy your wife, your sister and your mother and you afraid to liberate yourselves. Without those naked Jieng Arab in Juba would might still abusing your family today in Juba. I am sorry to response to you in this way, but that is what you want. I was around Juba in 90s and I truly witness what I am talking about, but by the way I am not a jieng who used to carry water to you in Konyo Kony, but I am a Jieng who liberated your wife, your sister and your mother from Arab in 1990s thank you for your stupid memories. Jesus gets upset when He entered the temple courts, He begins to drive all out who were buying and selling in the temple. “Overturned the tables of the money changers and the seats of those who sold doves Matthew 21:12.”

      • Lavina Lual says:

        I have not heard yet of Jesus insulting people what I knew was he said to the woman do not give out your remant of food to dogs Mathew 15:26 “It’s not right to take the children’s food and throw it to the dogs.” …

        Mathew 7:6 again Jesus said “Give not that which is holy to the dogs, neither cast you your pearls before … )

        This is food for thought because it has many interpretations, I know dogs cannot cultivate and are animals who like stealing some times depnding on orientations. On the other hand lands are sacred some are holy and do not want to be spoiled by blood shed…

        LL

  30. Abiel says:

    John kigana
    You forgot that Jienge are men who let your mother and your grandmother to rewear their libath since the Khartoum armies took out their libath in libath mafe if not Jienge you and your mother could be a Khartoum bitches until this time

    • Lavina Lual says:

      عبدي-

      Just to response to your trash to John Kijana. Juba was not colonized by the Arabs or by the Jienge in the name of the SPLA from 1956 to date.

      What we all know as South Sudanese and Sudanese in our history is that you the Jaang (word referring to slaves) or عبيد in Arabic were the dinka people by description who were prone to all sorts of slavery from creation to date (Abyei Slavery is still ongoing) all along from 1955, beyond and up to date.

      Proof is Sudan history revealed the thousands-millions of jaang population who were taken for sold during the slave trader business that was headed by Zubeir Bashain the whole of Bahar El-Gazal and some areas in Jongolei. The Main Markets for jaang slaves included Wau Capital itself and Maurada in Omdurman. Up to this 21st C you can still find dinka children sold in Pibor markets for 10 cows and they are auction by their biological parents apart from the ones forced taken by the Murle.

      It is not a hidden secret in Khartoum city there were and up to now thousands jaang house slaves roaming around in Khartoum in Arabs houses under severe slavery abuses especially underage girls and boys who are sodomised every now and then.

      Jok Madut Jok argued that the Sudanese slave trade persists in the 21st century. He claimed that Southern Sudanese who work in the North[where?] at marginal and petty jobs are regarded as Abeed because of the social standing that is concomitant with such occupations. Dinka[further explanation needed] labourers earning just enough to buy food are treated as the property of landowners and merchants. “Displaced Southerners,” Jok states, “are at the bottom of the racial hierarchy in Northern Sudan.” He explains that they depend upon patronage and exploitative relationships with power brokers, with relations ranging from servitude through bonded work to serving as attractants for resources from foreign aid agencies. “The lines dividing slavery and cheap labor”, he states, “are blurred.’https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abeed

      To answer you on libas-mafi residential area near Atlabara in Juba City, the area was an area much known for alcohol where men and women get drunk/black out to the extent of not knowing themselves and what they are doing like all international dunkers. These people go and shit around in hidden grass thinking they are not seen because of absents of toilets in the local bars (andayat) around libas-mafi. This is how the name libas-mafi came about not in the context you pu/think!

      If you the jaang were men with balls enough you could have captured kuajok and the whole of warap state during the liberation struggle the main State and area of President innu , unfortunately, Kiir was in Yei throughout other than Kuajok. The same thing with the late Dr Garang who was in EES in Chuhudum all the time instead of liberating the whole of Jongeli with the help of Kuol Manyang at least but in vain. Today the UPDF are the one protecting the RSS from being taken by Dr Riek Machar to the extent that even the office of the President is guarded by the UPDF, where are the عبيد-the jaang or slave warriors??

      Now tell me again who are men with balls in this country? Not to prolong my response take away the UPDF from the RSS just to proof for us your boldness and let us see who will be wipe away or who will be running to Khartoum because Uganda, Kenya, Ethiopia Chad and Congo will be sealed by the landlords?

      LL

  31. Eli says:

    We in the oppositions have been lobbying for TROIKA, EU, AU and UN to get involved, finally our hard work it is paying off. I personally think IGAD Plus must be implimented by all means and done as soon as possible. I have read what Kirr said in his letter to IGAD, he is nervous now because this is the true justice needed by South Sudanese at large. And if he (Kirr) fails to bring peace then as predicted the country is on the way to breaking up into three autonomous regions of Equatoria, Bahr Ghazal and Upper Nile, then let it happen.

  32. monyetet says:

    This is what i can called the real response
    ….May God increase your wisdom …SPLA/M oyeeeeeeee

  33. IJSONOFMAN says:

    The JCE is right is supposed to be joined by the others elders in S.Sudan

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